Re: Party Creation
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:51 am
I just didn't want anyone to think I was a jerk taking over another role that someone else had. It was an honest mistake.
As I am a Male, I only play males. So no worries.DeepSpacer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:39 pmoh, and would it be too much trouble for your character to be male? We're not exactly running Charlie's Angels in space, you know.
Ah! I hate when that happens! I usually save a Word copy of the sheets, cut-n-paste to one. Or rather, i create in Word file first, then paste to webpage.wrote:Also, sorry for the delay, but apparently I forgot to save my character and there was a power blackout so I have to start over on that, sheet should be up my Sunday.
The Gunslinger has Coercion, Cool, and Kn:Outer Rim as career skills, all skills that the party lacks nearly entirely (One person has Cool with zero ranks, no one has OR or Coercion. And no one else has a Presence over "2"). the talents are vastly different than the thief tree. I'm more than fine with those aspects of the character, as is.ShadoWarrior wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:26 pmKzar essentially duplicates Sarenda professionally, only he's not as good as she is. The main difference is that he's a baby Force user. Which, down the road, will cause our party all sorts of problems with the ISB and Inquisitorious that we'd really not want and wouldn't otherwise have.
IMO the whole idea of even HAVING a Force-user option in the CRB is potentially canon-breaking. But people want to play force-users so FFG has it in there rather than Luke (and Leia) being the last potential Jedi. I suppose it's in there, too, if people want to play in a different time frame.ShadoWarrior wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:26 pmAnother overlooked issue is that Luke, who's at Echo Base, would sense the Force in this guy. That breaks canon in a big way.
Cool is not a skill that matters much. Other than to provide a slight improvement to the odds of getting to go sooner in the init order its only real use is to resist Charm. In 4 or so years of GMing this game I've yet to see a situation where an NPC tries to apply Charm to a PC. Just doesn't happen. Outer Rim has its uses, but it's not essential and he doesn't even have a rank in it so it's irrelevant anyway. Svae, with a '4' Int can do Outer Rim better. Even if he had a rank in Outer Rim Svae would still be better with GGGG than he would with YGG. I saved the only real useful skill for last: Coercion. With YGG his odds of success are slim (and pretty much nonexistent versus stormtroopers). The biggest problem with the build is that with no attribute better than '3' he's going to have a tough time in any social check as they're all opposed and the NPCs will have pools as good as or better than him. Characters built for social 'warfare' need to have a '4' or better in their primary attribute. Otherwise they simply won't be effective. The odds do not favor their success if their pool is weaker than their opponents'.DeepSpacer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:36 pmThe Gunslinger has Coercion, Cool, and Kn:Outer Rim as career skills, all skills that the party lacks nearly entirely (One person has Cool with zero ranks, no one has OR or Coercion. And no one else has a Presence over "2"). the talents are vastly different than the thief tree. I'm more than fine with those aspects of the character, as is.
Good to know that we won't cross paths. However, to address your point, Luke already demonstrated a Force skill he didn't have in ANH: Move. And he's a Skywalker, the son of Anakin. His Force potential is pretty darn strong. In ANH not only was he able to demonstrate rudimentary Reflect talent, but whatever the talent is for Force-assisted aiming. The latter with no training by Ben whatsoever.DeepSpacer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:36 pmWould or Could detect? Would he even have any idea about such things? As Luke, up to this point has only heard Ben's voice in his head saying to "trust the force" and hasn't been the Dagobah yet. BTW, I have no intent of us 'bumping' into him, Han, Leia, or any of the others and having that heroic cross-over roleplay.
True. This "Awakens" business makes me as nervous as it does curious. So far, I am buying into how it is a rapid and powerful, sudden occurrence. I love Rey's acting and intensity. No doubt there IS an explanation out there somewhere as to her parentage. I'm just not sure if I will like the answer (Ben Kenobi love child, or something like that.) Just over a month away!On a side note, what's really shocking to me is how strong Rey is in the Force in TFA. She's stronger than Ren (who's been trained and she hasn't been) and she has an innate ability to learn new Force powers just by watching others perform them. No Force user ever shown before has been able to come even remotely close to how fast she's been developing as a Force user. Not even Anakin after his training began. Begs the question of who she really is.
It's open whether Vesper traveled around with Voe a bit, or if Voe took her directly Echo Base. Whatever works best for your story, DS.The attack happened while Vesper was in residency at the Raltiir First General Hospital. The Imperial Lord Tion, citing Rebel cells on Raltiir, brought a star destroyer to the world and bombarded the surface from orbit. Vesper was among the first responders, finding herself working alongside a Polis Massan spacer named Svae Xor Voe, who had sprung into action to offer first aid to the victims of the attack. As they worked, Voe pointed out how the bombardment seemed to have targeted non-Human-majority neighborhoods. Then Vesper's superiors ordered her to ignore the most heavily impacted areas and to focus instead on helping Human victims. The memory came back in stark relief, her just standing by as her non-Human teammates had been carted away from the grav-ball court only a few years before.
Vesper ignored the order. In fact, the order made her mad. She realized she'd been enabling the Empire's atrocities with her silence. But no more. Voe said she could put Vesper in touch with the Rebel Alliance. They could use a good medic.
I think this is great, but what if instead of meeting Voe you meet Torx (Voe's father) who is a medic for the rebellion as it would make more sense for him to be there than it would for Voe. Also as a medic he would recognize your ability more than Voe would. He then links you up with Voe and subsequently the rebellion.SavageBob wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:42 pmHere's how I've linked Vesper to Voe. Please let me know if you'd like to see any tweaks, Stneu:
It's open whether Vesper traveled around with Voe a bit, or if Voe took her directly Echo Base. Whatever works best for your story, DS.The attack happened while Vesper was in residency at the Raltiir First General Hospital. The Imperial Lord Tion, citing Rebel cells on Raltiir, brought a star destroyer to the world and bombarded the surface from orbit. Vesper was among the first responders, finding herself working alongside a Polis Massan spacer named Svae Xor Voe, who had sprung into action to offer first aid to the victims of the attack. As they worked, Voe pointed out how the bombardment seemed to have targeted non-Human-majority neighborhoods. Then Vesper's superiors ordered her to ignore the most heavily impacted areas and to focus instead on helping Human victims. The memory came back in stark relief, her just standing by as her non-Human teammates had been carted away from the grav-ball court only a few years before.
Vesper ignored the order. In fact, the order made her mad. She realized she'd been enabling the Empire's atrocities with her silence. But no more. Voe said she could put Vesper in touch with the Rebel Alliance. They could use a good medic.
I was making a hyperbole, as in "they do something crazy to shock the system". Stupid movie stuff. Still...Between III & IV the twins age up to about 20 and Obi-wan seems to age about 40 years. "WE" would shout out "THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!!", but unfortunately, that hasn't stopped them before.ShadoWarrior wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:52 pmShe can't be Ben's child. She's not old enough. Ben died before she was born. TFA takes place 30 or so years after RotJ. Rey's not 30+ years old. Daisy Ridley certainly isn't that old. She'd have to be Han's or Luke's. I don't see it being Han & Leia as Leia should be able to recognize her own daughter, especially since Leia is FS herself. That just leaves Luke. Or someone completely unexpected.
I like the idea of it being Voe rather than her father, since it makes the meet up seem more fated. Your character was caught in the wrong place at the wrong time: Just dropping off some supplies for the Raltiir Rebels when boom! the imps bombard the place. Voe's got some basic medical training per her rank in Medicine, so it would make sense for her to help out with the wounded until things calmed down and she could get back to the Red Dawn. Then maybe Voe was like, "So... You need to meet my father," and then brought Vesper to Torx, who recruited her into the Rebellion.Stneu73 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:12 pmI think this is great, but what if instead of meeting Voe you meet Torx (Voe's father) who is a medic for the rebellion as it would make more sense for him to be there than it would for Voe. Also as a medic he would recognize your ability more than Voe would. He then links you up with Voe and subsequently the rebellion.
Just an idea
Yeah that could totally work. Voe might have actually been supplying said rebel cells that caused the bombardment (provided there were actual cells). That is definitely something Voe would do. (see personality)SavageBob wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:52 pmI like the idea of it being Voe rather than her father, since it makes the meet up seem more fated. Your character was caught in the wrong place at the wrong time: Just dropping off some supplies for the Raltiir Rebels when boom! the imps bombard the place. Voe's got some basic medical training per her rank in Medicine, so it would make sense for her to help out with the wounded until things calmed down and she could get back to the Red Dawn. Then maybe Voe was like, "So... You need to meet my father," and then brought Vesper to Torx, who recruited her into the Rebellion.
In short, it makes it so our characters met on the "field of battle" in a manner of speaking, rather than Vesper knowing you through your dad. The trauma of helping people half blown to bits by star destroyer fire would be a bond our characters would share that could help with rolepay and characterization.
Of course, if you don't see rushing to people's aid as something Voe would do in a situation like this, I can make it Torx instead. (And I don't mean that in a jerkish way). What do you think?
That's because Lucas in his infinite non-wisdom decided to make Obi-wan a Padawan when Anakin was discovered. That would make Obi-wan in his mid-fifties and Alec Guinness was (and looked) older than that. Little to no consideration was given to trying to reconcile this other than "the desert aged him".DeepSpacer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:38 pmI was making a hyperbole, as in "they do something crazy to shock the system". Stupid movie stuff. Still...Between III & IV the twins age up to about 20 and Obi-wan seems to age about 40 years. "WE" would shout out "THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!!", but unfortunately, that hasn't stopped them before.
Done! Yeah, the bombardment of Raltiir is some OG Star Wars EU stuff. I think it's from the 1981 Brian Daley radio dramas. Things get pretty dark afterward, as the Empire invades in force and puts Rebel sympathizers into concentration camps for summary execution. Voe saved Vesper's life by getting her off world, now that I think about it. Until Rogue One, Leia and the Tantive IV were actually on their way back from a relief mission to Raltiir when they came under fire form Vader in A New Hope.