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Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:29 am
by ShadoWarrior
While it's true that some Force abilities show no visible effects perhaps we can consider that a Force sensitive person can probably tell when the Force is being actively wielded nearby. "Disturbances in the Force", remember? You can sense that something is going on (unless it is being deliberately hidden by a Force power whose purpose is to hide usage of the Force). What that something is, probably not, but that something is happening. Once you suspect that something unusual is happening then this is where Perception and other types of checks should probably come in, so as to try to figure out what's going on.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:41 am
by DeepSpacer
Whoa! Curvian's a BEAST. (FR of 4) I hope she can do something useful!
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:45 am
by Doctor Who
Yeah, that's what I thought Shado, hence me saying she was doing something.
FR4 is one higher than an Inquisitor comes with, so I figured an actual master should be a bit better than an Inquisitor. If I was statting Exar Kun post-getting-super-powerful-amulets, I'd give him a 6. Palpatine would probably be 6 for me too, just he'd have a bunch committed at any given time for alchemy or hiding stuff. I feel five is appropriate for things like normal high ranking masters, 4 for normal Jedi, 1 for Padawans just starting out, 2 for where you all are now, and 3 for early Knights.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:04 am
by ThreeBFour
Doctor Who wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:59 am
As far as you can tell, it seems like Grandmother/Sete lost site of just Zyla.
Incidentally, since most Force Powers don't have visible signs of what they are, how does identifying what is happening work? I don't think I've ever encountered that except in
I, Jedi where Luke could tell Corran was creating an illusion and not actually lifting the rock.
One of my favorite books ever, and Corran Horn is my favorite Jedi and a master of illusion.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:06 am
by Doctor Who
Mine too.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:12 am
by ThreeBFour
Stackpole is probably my favorite writer overall, between Star Wars and Battletech, he wrote some very entertaining and intriguing books.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:23 am
by ShadoWarrior
ThreeBFour wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:04 am
One of my favorite books ever, and Corran Horn is my favorite Jedi and a master of illusion.
I liked him too. Pity that he got retconned out of existence when Disney created the new (crap) canon.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:44 am
by Vergence
Doctor Who wrote: ↑Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:27 pm
Yeah, this is no illusion.
Although Sith illusions, when powerful enough, will be detected by machines just as easily as living creatures (see Ulic's assault on the Republic Shipyards in TotJ).
Sweet, I figured as much. Even though the appearance is of combat is on the horizon, none has occurred yet. If ST-3R sought to detain the grandmother's arms/hands behind her back for binders, what sort of check would that be? Opposed Athletics? Brawl for grappling resistance? As far as I know, there isn't a clear set of rules and I'm not trying to inflict strain damage until she's unconscious either. ST-3R is just trying to follow a standard security procedure.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:06 am
by Doctor Who
IIRC when I did this in
@DeepSpacer's game, it was Brawl vs Brawn. Grandmother has a one brawn, so you can attempt that. Adversary 3 from Sete, so it becomes Brawl vs. RPP
DeepSpacer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:00 pm
Grapple is one of those things left wide open in FFG. I looked up a lot of forum stuff and we'll go with this:
Hard Brawl check against his three Brawn. Upgrade once with DP for Red-Purple-Purple.
Two Adv to activate disorient or knockdown. Three Adv or Triumph to Immobilize.{Edit: or ensnare}
Spend two advantages to knockdown or disorient grandmother. Three advantages/triumph to immobilize.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:22 am
by Vergence
Doctor Who wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:06 am
IIRC when I did this in @DeepSpacer's game, it was Brawl vs Brawn. Grandmother has a one brawn, so you can attempt that. Adversary 3 from Sete, so it becomes Brawl vs. RPP
DeepSpacer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:00 pm
Grapple is one of those things left wide open in FFG. I looked up a lot of forum stuff and we'll go with this:
Hard Brawl check against his three Brawn. Upgrade once with DP for Red-Purple-Purple.
Two Adv to activate disorient or knockdown. Three Adv or Triumph to Immobilize.{Edit: or ensnare}
Spend two advantages to knockdown or disorient grandmother. Three advantages/triumph to immobilize.
If Adversary 3 upgrades the check of 1 Brawn by 3x, wouldn't it just be RR? 1 Difficulty (Upgrade) to a Challenge, 1 Challenge (Upgrade) to 1 Challenge & 1 Purple, and 1 Challenge & Purple (Upgrade) to 2 Challenge dice? Further, would you allow Intense Focus be applied to the check too?
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:26 am
by Doctor Who
What does Intense Focus do?
And yeah, should be RR. I goofed.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:30 am
by Vergence
Intense Focus: Before making a skill check, the character may perform the Intense Focus maneuver. The character suffers one strain to upgrade the ability of the skill check once.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:34 am
by Doctor Who
Yeah, that will work.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:40 am
by Vergence
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:50 am
by Doctor Who
That works, but ST-3R will take one strain, and the next good guy character to take an action gets a Setback (black) die.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:42 pm
by DeepSpacer
Just a thought, but I think a "called shot" to hit an item someone is wielding adds
(no Boosts) if you spend a maneuver to Aim. It is only
if you spend two consecutive maneuvers to 'Aim'.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:55 pm
by Doctor Who
Yeah, that's what Zyla did.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:37 am
by ThreeBFour
This is why Waz'aru had himself taken out of the fight. With this guy's power level it would not be pretty when Waz finally failed a Discipline check.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:20 am
by ShadoWarrior
ThreeBFour wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:37 am
This is why Waz'aru had himself taken out of the fight. With this guy's power level it would not be pretty when Waz finally failed a Discipline check.
Good call. I'm so glad I decided to not take any risks. Now I just have to see how Arca can contribute to this fight when it becomes my turn again ... besides waiting for someone to take enough damage to need his attention. I need to figure out something that he can do to be proactive.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:59 am
by ThreeBFour
ShadoWarrior wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:20 am
ThreeBFour wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:37 am
This is why Waz'aru had himself taken out of the fight. With this guy's power level it would not be pretty when Waz finally failed a Discipline check.
Good call. I'm so glad I decided to not take any risks. Now I just have to see how Arca can contribute to this fight when it becomes my turn again ... besides waiting for someone to take enough damage to need his attention. I need to figure out something that he can do to be proactive.
Sedate Grandmother? Maybe with her out, he won't have a vessel to manifest through?
Then of course you will have to figure out how to clean the Sith crap out of us...
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:09 am
by ShadoWarrior
I can try to sedate granny, but that's considered an attack so I'd have to first score a hit. Then she gets to resist the drug. On top of all of that, the Sith controlling her isn't going to just let me jab her. Still, it's not like I have many great choices. But attacking her with an injector won't get me the yellow from my rank in LS. I wonder if Doc will allow me to use my skill in Medicine instead?
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:04 am
by Doctor Who
Yeah, she's currently restrained, so I'd be fine with you using medicine, but it counting as a combat check (so the adversary 3 applies).
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:48 am
by Vergence
Did the unleash come from her come hands or just general body? I'm now getting imagery that Granny just took a hook shot at Curvian with unleash
In the Grandmother Ryn's voice, "
Booya, you lightside kriffers!"
followed by a wicked cackle.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:53 am
by Doctor Who
It came from her hand, like Palpatine or Snoke shooting lightning.
Re: Arc I - OOC
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:07 pm
by ShadoWarrior
Doctor Who wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:04 am
Yeah, she's currently restrained, so I'd be fine with you using medicine, but it counting as a combat check (so the adversary 3 applies).
Thank you. Someone will need to let me know when Arca can take a turn again. I have no idea where we're at in the init order, or if it's a new round yet.
