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Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:30 pm
by kanila
Overtake: Opposed roll inorder to pass another racer. The Player/NPC taking this Action can be effected by Evasive Manuevers, Stay on Target and Gain the Advantage.

Evasive Maneuvers: In addition to the normal rules of this maneuver it upgrades the difficulty of the dice pool for all Overtake actions until the end of the pilot's next turn. This applies to actions against and by the pilot/ship that executed the maneuver.

Stay on Target: In addition to the normal rules of this manuever it upgrades the ability of the dice pool for all Overtake actions until the end of the pilot's next turn. This applies to actions against and by the pilot/ship that executed the maneuver.

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:14 pm
by Boutrose Saba-Norr
Kanila I'm really enjoying these, so if I'm reading this right gain the advantage action is being used to prevent someone from performing an overtake and the two maneuvers are also altering the difficulty of the overtake?

I really like how simple that is, i'm either trying to overtake or prevent it from happening, but sometimes I'll have to judge my situation considering whether or not i'll want to overtake the ship in front of me or make sure that the ship behind me doesn't overtake me, or can i use a combination of actions and maneuvers to do both.

I really love this, it already feels a lot more like getting in the mindset of a racer.

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:32 pm
by kanila
Gain the Advantage would not prevent an overtake it would just wipe the slate clean if the manuevers were used.

And yes you could use one of those manuevers with an action.

For example you could use Stay on Target before using Overtake.

Or

Overtake and then Evasive Maneuvers to try to hold the lead.

But because Overtake and Gain the Advantage are both Actions they cannot be combined.

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:49 pm
by Boutrose Saba-Norr
Ok ok, that’s cool, so we aren’t using gain the advantage like we were in the first race, I like that. So if I succeed on the gain the advantage it nullifies my opponents evasive maneuvers or stay on target? That’s good to know.

So if I’m reading this correctly evasive maneuvers is what I use to prevent others from overtaking and stay on target is what I use to overtake and when someone tries to overtake me or I try to overtake them it is am opposed role each time.

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:07 pm
by kanila
Yes. So the co-piloting check can still add boosts for you or setbacks against your opponent.

The way I see it, if it's an opposed roll it will make the race feel more intense.

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:46 pm
by Boutrose Saba-Norr
I agree, I think this is going to be a lot of fun

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:06 pm
by ThreeBFour
Makes sense to me, although I will not be primarily doing any of these in the near future of the game, I will be referring back to these.

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:53 pm
by DeepSpacer
Observing (admiring) from afar... A few questions...

Overtake is (basically) the Attack Action?

What's the difference between Overtake and Gain the Advantage? Both are Actions. GtAdv lets you choose the "relative positioning of the two". Why would you need Overtake? Maybe GtAdv is determine left, right, or rear positioning?

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:22 am
by kanila
DeepSpacer wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:53 pm
Observing (admiring) from afar... A few questions...

Overtake is (basically) the Attack Action?

What's the difference between Overtake and Gain the Advantage? Both are Actions. GtAdv lets you choose the "relative positioning of the two". Why would you need Overtake? Maybe GtAdv is determine left, right, or rear positioning?
GtAdv just wipes out boost and setbacks. Atleast going by the book. I used it as a blanket fool all move for this first race but it just felt bland. There was no real feeling of racing against someone else. From my point of view it just looked like people competing in a time trial and not a race.

Overtake is different as it does not cancel any boosts or setbacks. It is also an opposed roll, this should make the race feel more personal while highlighting good team work to give you the best dice pool possible.

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:53 am
by Boutrose Saba-Norr
Essentially the way I’m seeing it, if I’m in the lead or don’t want to try to pull ahead of my opponent I don’t have anything I can do since I don’t want to take the overtake action,

In this case I can use gain the advantage to wipe the site clean as far as my opponents maneuvers and make it easier for me to maintain my own position when they pull me into a contested roll with overtake.

Basically overtake is the offensive flying action in this case and gain the advantage becomes the defensive one.

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:37 am
by kanila
Essentially yes.

Re: Starship Maneuvers

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:19 pm
by Boutrose Saba-Norr
I feel like I really enjoy having them as two separate actions because before when I was running the race there was never any risk based on action, I was always going to do gain the advantage which would both help me overtake and prevent people from passing me.

In this case, I now have to make calculated decisions on what would be the best possible turn of events, that could go one way or the other. In the case of this race where we started out somewhere in the middle, things might have gone very differently had I not been able to make simply one move to do both things.